tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10512467.post112190031921670417..comments2023-07-15T02:18:38.947-07:00Comments on Contrarian Views: Contrarian View From the Pew: The Wrong ModelDavid M. Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15720778073616293157noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10512467.post-1122303476005407792005-07-25T07:57:00.000-07:002005-07-25T07:57:00.000-07:00Hi Teresa,Maybe I could explain if I knew where to...Hi Teresa,<BR/><BR/>Maybe I could explain if I knew where to start. What is it that you don’t understand?David M. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15720778073616293157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10512467.post-1122156975705434922005-07-23T15:16:00.000-07:002005-07-23T15:16:00.000-07:00OK, I'll read you next post before a freak out, bu...OK, I'll read you next post before a freak out, but honestly David, I don't understand your last paragraph.IMOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01267268485213020773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10512467.post-1122141561407919492005-07-23T10:59:00.000-07:002005-07-23T10:59:00.000-07:00Teresa - I totally agree with you about the 10% pa...Teresa - I totally agree with you about the 10% part. That is as low as the bar goes, biblically, but it was never meant to be the goal.Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08900874017388094590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10512467.post-1122065352882146512005-07-22T13:49:00.000-07:002005-07-22T13:49:00.000-07:00Hi Teresa,Good comment and good point. However, I...Hi Teresa,<BR/><BR/>Good comment and good point. However, I don’t know how to have “an organization” without “organization”. Some buildings, staff, and administrative costs are just a part of life. Trying to do church without some infrastructure would not be very effective.<BR/><BR/>In my next post, I will discuss what I believe to be a Biblical tithe. I have already written about how categorizing “giving” and “spending” is not a proper way to separate what is being done for God and what is being done for self. <BR/><BR/>I would much rather see money spent on a person than wasted on a building. Likewise, I would rather see money spent on a building than wasted on a person. It is possible to give 100% of your income away and do more harm than good. It is also possible to do more good by spending 1% than giving 100%. I think 10% is a good yardstick, but the most important factor is the cause, not how it makes the giver feel. <BR/><BR/>Now put those eyes back where they belong!David M. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15720778073616293157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10512467.post-1122063964602986362005-07-22T13:26:00.000-07:002005-07-22T13:26:00.000-07:00I guess that was your rolling eyes comment, David,...I guess that was your rolling eyes comment, David, well sort of.IMOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01267268485213020773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10512467.post-1122063921463188712005-07-22T13:25:00.000-07:002005-07-22T13:25:00.000-07:00You all know that I am not the "typical" church mi...You all know that I am not the "typical" church mindset, but that idea is biblical. Sharing one-anothers incomes, things, time, talents and treasures IS supposed to "BE" "the CHURCH. The problem is, what we've MADE church to be. Church is not a building, programs, staff, and all of that stuff. I don't know if you all know this, but the typical church budget spends more than 80-90% on the support of the building, staff salaries and programs within the church walls. That is the problem! If the church followed the model that we are supposed to go by, they would not have salaries and buildings and even programs to support. Our church does not have membership--we are the body of Christ-- and only about 10% of our "budget", of which we tore up, goes to "things" such as materials...Our money goes to the community and outside the church walls. And Jennifer, we should be giving way more than a 10th, that is only the beginning. We should give the tenth to our "local" body and then whatever else the Lord has blessed us with to others in need. The problem is "where" the 10th goes--it "should" go to help others within the body that have need and then others in the community etc...IMOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01267268485213020773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10512467.post-1121983598950032512005-07-21T15:06:00.000-07:002005-07-21T15:06:00.000-07:00Thanks for stopping by Jennifer. It’s been kind o...Thanks for stopping by Jennifer. It’s been kind of lonely this week. ; -(<BR/><BR/>I imagined a lot of rolling eyes when I wrote this, even if I haven’t gotten a rolling eyes comment yet.David M. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15720778073616293157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10512467.post-1121979407865462382005-07-21T13:56:00.000-07:002005-07-21T13:56:00.000-07:00Great post! My dad's family was of the Appalachian...Great post! My dad's family was of the Appalachian Apostolic kind of faith, and they literally combined everyone's incomes then split it amongst the members according to need. I could talk forever about why this is a bad idea. Personally, I have always felt that "giving a tenth" to God doesn't necessarily mean giving it to the church. Of course, I caught a lot of flack for that belief, growing up in the Baptist church! Looking forward to the next post.Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08900874017388094590noreply@blogger.com